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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:41 pm
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Did you also see Star Wars Episode 8? How did you like it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:50 pm
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Yes, seen it.
Very good episode by all means, especially on 3D IMAX (did have alot of weird plot holes, but that's not new in movie business), if you are ready to accept their inability to come up with NEW scripts as "cool easter eggs for earlier plots".
Plotwise it's "a movie we've already seen" (mix of Episode 5 and 6), that also has weird "middle phase" with that weird stupid and unneeded casino location with strong political view such movies should avoid.

But still, it looks fantastic, very emotional, has some twists, very immersive and engaging and I strongly recommend it. Quite funny at times, VERY good acting, especially of Mark Hamill.
I did like a new view on the Dark and Light sides of the Force and desire to go beyond it and complicate the dichotomy by much, they are preparing new directions it seems.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:09 am
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Loved it, probably the most interesting Star Wars entry since the original trilogy. Even if not everything gelled perfectly, I loved that they at least tried to do something interesting within the always familiar framework.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:44 am
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Despite the occasional slip-up, I thouroughly enjoyed the film. The movie didn't drag along, It proceeded decently, it wasn't as political as the prequels, and the plot twisted and turned in an unpredictable way. I enjoyed it, and it was far less repetitive than previous installments.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:09 am
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Sigma64 wrote:
it wasn't as political as the prequels


Or the original trilogy, for that matter. Star Wars movies have always been influenced by the times in which they were created. Vietnam/Nixon, Bush/Gulf war.... this really isn't the first time Star Wars has been influenced by the politics of its time.
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Yeah, can't argue with you there. It's just the extrovertedly political fashion fashion of the prequels that I'm referring to. Everything is going to be influenced by the politics of the time; that's just the way that the world works.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:31 pm
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I view it more as a "war on different philosophies", and the context of those philosophies is going to change from one decade to the next. Politics do involve philosophy to a point, so the longer you discuss it, the more likely you'll stumble upon something involving politics. But that's just my personal viewpoint. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:05 am
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I thought it was a jumbled up combination of ROTJ and TESB. The worst scenes were those with Luke, except perhaps the ending. Started checking my watch about an hour or so into the movie.

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I've actually been interested in exploring a possible analogy embedded -- intentionally or unintentionally -- inside the story of the new films. However, it would get really philosophical and political with too many parallels to the current state of the world to be able to have a rational communal discussion and depository of ideas around it. I don't know where would be a good moderated place to explore the topic.

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This might be a better place for such a discussion than many superhero forums, I'll tell you that much. Some of those guys are salty af about this new movie.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:08 am
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Let's explore then Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:15 pm
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I was majorly disappointed... The script was terrible in parts, the plot holes were enormous and they just undid so many exciting things that had been set up from TFA. I'm all for taking SW in a new direction but you still need to honor the past while doing it or you are going to alienate the fans who've loved this series for 40 years, like me.

Canto Bite was just terrible, the whole sequence, in fact, probably the worst sequence in any Star Wars movie or TV show ever made. There's a good 15 minutes they could of cut out of the film for starters.

Personally, I'm absoluteloy shocked that Kathleen Kennedy and Disney allowed this film to be shown like this, without realising the massive division it was gonna cause between fans.

And before anyone starts with that 'fanboy hater' crap that's all over the internet, then the film is bad, whether my plot expectations were met or not.

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But if they didn't have Canto Bight, they wouldn't be setting the stage for a new "Anakin as a boy" character. Smile

I'm actually disappointed that they haven't taken Star Wars into a new direction with the new movies. Both 7 and 8 have largely felt to me like rehashes of 4, 5, and 6 (8 has a dash of Ep 1 for good measure). By the end of Ep 7, I was already expecting the Ewoks to make an appearance when they landed on Death Star v3, but they waited to bring them in Ep 8 as Porgs when Rey (new version of Luke, Jedi apprentice with humble beginnings) goes to a secluded planet to find old Luke (new version of unwilling-to-teach-anyone Jedi Master Yoda with a touch of Obi-wan "I accidentally created a Sith" Kenobi). The only major character that I can't really cross-reference to an original series character so far is Finn. I wish they had done more and better things with his character than they did.

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Agreed Adam, it's like they had absolutely no idea what to do with Finn after the first movie. I liked what they did with Poe, and most of the other characters but Finn just got turned into a comical unthreatening joke. Then again, as someone pointed out to me, he's nothing but a stormtrooper who worked in sanitation! Stormtroopers are notoriously weak and useless, except he couldn't even manage to succeed as a useless stormtrooper, so we really shouldn't be expecting much from him at all!

I don't mind some repeating themes, or new directions but at least do it in a respectful style, unlike TLJ was done.

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