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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:43 am
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Since this project has been dead for years, perhaps the topics should just be normal Mapping Mania discussions? This way anyone can reply to them and don't have to be part of the group. And maybe the HOT TOPIC ones should be removed?

What do you guys think? Just a random idea. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:14 pm
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I'd probably agree.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:09 pm
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12 years ago. That is the most recent post date in this section... You can not be caught wrong, Chris.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:48 pm
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I'd like input from veteran moderators on this issue. It's been so long since I registered, I forgot exactly why new users weren't granted access to Advanced Mappers.

But what's also important to bring up - is the purpose of its existence due to circumstances that no longer exist?

One last thing to bring up - whether or not every user is granted access to that section, is there any reason we shouldn't just have its current threads viewable by all ... whether or not you're allowed to post on them?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:44 pm
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Tricob wrote:
I'd like input from veteran moderators on this issue. It's been so long since I registered, I forgot exactly why new users weren't granted access to Advanced Mappers.

But what's also important to bring up - is the purpose of its existence due to circumstances that no longer exist?

One last thing to bring up - whether or not every user is granted access to that section, is there any reason we shouldn't just have its current threads viewable by all ... whether or not you're allowed to post on them?


I'm not a moderator, but the Advanced Mappers forum was related to a tutorial that Jack Ryerson was developing but was never finished. Only veteran mappers were able to contribute. Since the mapping tutorial isn't going to happen I don't think there is a need for it anymore. However, there are a lot of interesting topics and discussions there that it would be nice to have opened up.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:58 pm
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I was around when the Advanced Mappers section originated and my recollection matches what Barry is saying. If I also recall correctly, members of the forums below the "moderator rank" were not natively able to access the section but were actually given access by moderators and above based on some criteria (most presumably that they were considered good/great/outstanding/bloody brilliant mappers).

The idea behind having such a section was nice (though it's open to debate if it was a bit elitist, so to speak), but sadly I don't think much really ever came out of it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:55 pm
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I'm all for merging the forums. Since it no longer serves its original purpose there's no point keeping the two forums segregated.
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I'm for a merging of the two forums as well. Thanks for everyone's feedback on this issue, and also to Chris for bringing up the topic. It's good to see a loose end tied up. Smile
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I was thinking, since there is now a lot of stickies in Addons/Mods/TC's for "Map of the Month League" (that you have to scroll through to see anything else), perhaps on top of moving the old Advanced Mapping topics to Mapping Mania, we could rename the Advanced Mapping section to "Mapping League" section (moving the stickies there). What do you guys think?

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A lot of posts relate to features in the mod and bug reports rather than just map submissions. I'll agree with anyone who says that it's more an "Add-on" thread than legitimate Wolf3D thread.

As for the Stickies situation, it probably isn't so bad on modern monitors. I'm viewing in 1024x768, which is sub-standard next to the modern 1920x1080 display. Using the font I have and that vertical resolution, the new posts aren't always quick to get to, so I more or less have the same problem as you (I click the New Post icon to skip a lot of steps). I haven't thought much about it because we haven't been getting a whole lot of posts in that section lately. I'll take the blame for that partly; I delved into something in late 2014, and it's sort of taken on a life of its own ... not least of which is a novel that's over 155 pages and growing. That and my 8-bit projects have kind of taken the forefront of my spare time lately. Problems with compiling Wolf4SDL these days haven't helped matters.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:43 am
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7/11 of the stickies are map contest related :O

For organization, I'd be in favour of a dedicated subsection for MMC/League. I imagine it would get fairly active during the contests

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Zombie_Plan wrote:
7/11 of the stickies are map contest related :O

This is, in part, my fault.

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For organization, I'd be in favour of a dedicated subsection for MMC/League. I imagine it would get fairly active during the contests

Same here. Is it doable from a technical perspective, and what do the other moderators/site administrators think?

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I'm all for it!
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Ideas for reducing the sticky overload, in case a separate subforum isn't created:

-merge (I know, easier said than done) Ariel's latest MMC video library (admirable job, by the way!) with Andy's MotM Scorecard
-usticky the "Wolf3D add-ons and TCs - Where to submit?", as it doesn't seem to be serving much function
-perhaps unsticky MotM Q4 2014 as well? It's pretty old news at this point.

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I approve of Zombie_Plan's idea, also. Smile

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-perhaps unsticky MotM Q4 2014 as well? It's pretty old news at this point.
Indeed; I second that notion. Smile
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Well, it's been a week now. Any news?

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I don't know how to merge the forums, if I can. I think Greg would have to do that, but he hasn't been seen since 2017.
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I suspect that you have to merge each topic one at a time from one beginning to end. Seeing as Dean is the only one listed with moderator's abilities to both sections, I'd say it's up to him.
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That is unfortunate news. If merging the forums is not feasible, then what about some other changes suggested in this thread, like reducing the sticky thread overload in Addons/Mods/TCs?

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MMC masterpost? 1 sticky linking to the other threads, only presently relevant things stickied?

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I'll have a go on this asap, give me a week or so
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Progress so far:

- Advanced Mappers has been locked
- Relevant content has been copied to Mapping Mania
- Some obsolete stickies removed (those open for debate have been left untouched so far)
- various HOT TOPICS all over the place removed

If there are no problems, the next steps will be:

- Advanced Mappers section will be renamed to Mapping League or something similar
- Mapping League topics will be moved to this new section

to be continued...
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Thank you for the update, good stuff!

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Excellent work all round. Sorry for the whole HOT TOPIC debacle.
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Wow! I never thought I'd live to see wolf3d4all post, ever... Wink

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And it only took 16+ years to do so! Very Happy
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Status update:

- Advanced Mappers area renamed to Mapping League
- Mapping contest related posts moved to this area
- Most topics in this area unstickied

Currently giving up on cleaning "HOT TOPIC" stuff, there are way too many of these. Will do so later.
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Thanks for the cleanup! Thumbs Up

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It appears I can't post in the Mapping League forum - I get the error "Sorry, but only users granted special access can reply to posts in this forum."
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My bad.. should be fixed now. Please try again.
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