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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:00 am
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I was well excited when i first read about it on a natural selection forum, i immediatly went straight to the site and watched the trailer, the only thing i didn't know was how dissapointed i would be. Sad Im not sure if any of you have heard of it yet, but im ashamed of it. Firstly the go and ruin it by putting dwane Jonson a.k.a the rock in it who always in every film does his stupid bloody eyebrow thing which gets right up my nose because anybody can bloody do it. Secondly, they've changed the story by saying the discovered the last 10% of human genome. They've aparently removed the whole hell and mars thing i've read somewhere. I bet it won't be scary or gory or anything and it will probably be something sad like a 12a, i mean think about it all films based on games suck.
You got tomb raider, which was a pile of crap but angolina jolie (however u spell her name) was the only good thing about it. Final Fantasy: the spirits within, now what the hell was that crap it reall was a pile a crap, it was boring
Resident Evil: Ok this wasn't so bad it could have been better, but then resident apocylipse made up for it as it was really good.
AVP: this film wasn't bad, it just had a really lame story to it. I wish it was more aliens based rather than predator based.

I find, that games that are turned into films end up being messed up totally, they end up being something else stupid with the same name. and films which are made into games, are really commercialised, its always bloody EA who get their hands on the role to make the game for money, its usually a crappy bodge job, with loads of errors, thats really crap but still ends up making millions because you get them sad people who know nothing that love the games they make.


I just can't believe theyre making a doom movie so crap. What? Crying or Very sad im going to watch it either way when it comes out i wouldn't miss out on the oppurtunity. It has 1 actor that i actually like which is Karl Uban who is eomer in LOTR and the wierd chappy in chronicles of riddik. What do you guys think of this film? how will it turn out in your opinion?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:36 am
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Hmm... The movie looks like it has nothing to do with Doom. Eh, it's probably the same situation as the Final Fantasy movie; I'll likely end up watching it anyway.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:16 am
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The day the Doom movie is released, I'll disregard the motion picture entirely by spending the evening playing through Doom II co-op.

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Doom II co-op now theres something i've not done in a long time. As you can most probably tell i was angry earlier, i mean i can't believe the crap that they actually come out with when making games into films. So many people could have made the AVP and resident evil movie alot better. I personally think they should have based resident evil movie on resident evil 1 game, that would be so cool. AVP should have been set like how alien 2 was with the smart rifles, pulse rifles etc. Now Doom should have been exactly the same as doom III the game for it to really work. For obvious reasons they could't make it all about one character. but the could have made it about the squads that were around. I will watch the film i really will i shouldn't critisice as much as i am now. I guess it was just the idea of having the rock in the game.

I would like to see a quake film, prefably like quake II, i could write a well good story for that film better than what them so called movie script people spew up.
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I think the trick with making a good game-based story would be to take one where the game's story was kind of cheesy, and you turn it into an actual good story.

I read part of the plot of "Yar's Revenge" as a kid, but was kind of bored with it and didn't finish reading it. I played it afterwards though, and I perceived it as an outer-space sort of scenario. The creepy, atmospheric sound and almost gothic use of color gave me nightmares as a kid, and when I played it as an adult, the nightmares came back.

I then started thinking about turning the game's plot into an actual sci-fi horror story. I then remembered how many games made rotten stories and/or movies, and tried to drop the idea from my mind. But thoughts of the story kept coming back to me, as well as how to neatly seal up every plot loophole. I later wrote it just to get the idea off my back. About a week later, someone pointed me to a link to the game's original story, and after reading it, I realized that - with all modesty - the game's original story stank next to my own interpretation of it.

About ten people have read my game-related story so far, and all but one (who said it had too much intelligence and not enough of a body count) absolutely loved it. So now I'm seeking a publisher for the story. It's called "Zero Hour".
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This movie has absolutely nothing to do with doom. Excellent movie idea though, not scriptwise. I mean doom as in concept.

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I cant believe they are going to frig up the story... that sucks Evil or Very Mad

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god damn im reading from different places, in one place it said it was mars and hell and in another it said it wasn't, i've also heard that the rock isn't the star character and that karl uban is Very Happy which makes it better. and aparently the rock dies in the film anyway half way thru. I just really do not think they should name films after games if theyre going to change the story, it ruins the whole idea of "A film based on the game".
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Now the main site says its Mars? C'mon. This movie itself is a joke.
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I don't think the movie qualifies as a joke, it is much lower than that. It is sheer blashpemmy! Evil or Very Mad

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god damn im reading from different places, in one place it said it was mars and hell and in another it said it wasn't, i've also heard that the rock isn't the star character and that karl uban is Very Happy which makes it better. and aparently the rock dies in the film anyway half way thru. I just really do not think they should name films after games if theyre going to change the story, it ruins the whole idea of "A film based on the game".


Excellent! About time the script got something right.

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Well if anyone out there is good with flash animation or doom coding, we could make a doom movie, I could easily write up a script, as I've been writing up a bloody script almost every month that never gets USED!!!!! Mad Stupid sibling...... Anyway, it'd be nice to see something I've written actually be put into a movie form, but I don't have the technology to make it, as I'm more into stop motion, and I don't have any doom puppets, nor would I want to make any.

Anyone interested? I think a 15-30 minute flash movie would be cool, but no longer then an hour as then we are talking a never gonna be finished movie.

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im still waiting for my reply to hate mail i send to universal studios lol. Aybody other than the big companies could make a better film than that peice of turd. I wander how ID feels about the film, they probably don't care because theyre happy to be getting money i would have thought.
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Ringman wrote:
Well if anyone out there is good with flash animation or doom coding, we could make a doom movie, I could easily write up a script, as I've been writing up a bloody script almost every month that never gets USED!!!!! Mad Stupid sibling...... Anyway, it'd be nice to see something I've written actually be put into a movie form, but I don't have the technology to make it, as I'm more into stop motion, and I don't have any doom puppets, nor would I want to make any.

Anyone interested? I think a 15-30 minute flash movie would be cool, but no longer then an hour as then we are talking a never gonna be finished movie.

We talking sprites or new drawn characters?
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you could probably make one out of the doom 3 engine, personally, i prefer playing the game rather than seeing the movie...
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I was thinking sprites, but really you could do it with zdoom if you wanted. I'm not the expert on "cartoon animation" here I'd just be able to write a script, I'd need someone who knows the ropes for animation to do it. I can do stop motion, but when it comes to flash, or zdoom scripting, I'm in the dark.

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Wow...just imagine how you'll feel when "Wolfenstein: The Movie" comes out, starring Nicholas Cage as William "BJ" Blazkowicz...Laughing

What can I say? Hollywood (or it's kin) sits on the fence of the video game industry like a vulture, waiting to prey upon the latest video game sensation, tear it apart, and toss us it's stripped down carcass in movie form, with some stink and maggots where the substance used to be...(okay...I think I took that analogy one step too far!) As wierd as it sounds, there's some truth to that...for some reason, motion picture makers think that because kids love to sit in front of a PC or console and play a game for hours, they'll love watching real life characters act out the same scenario for us on the big screen. WRONG!!

Let's face it...we don't play Doom or Resident Evil or any of those other games they've tried to make into movies because we love the human interaction and drama (which was crap in the first RE game)...we play them for the friggin monsters, and the chance to be the one to blow them to bits! Watching a movie based on these games (assuming they get it even close to right) is like watching your big brother play a game for two hours without getting a chance to take a crack at it yourself...heck no! We're not gonna' sit through that...we're gonna' grab the controller away so we can get a piece of the action! You can't do that with a movie, so if there's no some bloody good action or cool monsters on the screen to entertain us, forget about it...

I'm not saying that as movie goers we're too ignorant to enjoy anything but blood and guts...of course that's not the case...BUT, when you take a game that was all about splattering baddies and try to turn it into a movie that's anything else, you're deviating from what everyone immediately expects from you, and they're gonna' hate it if you screw it up. Try coming up with something we haven't been exposed to since childhood that will be new and intriguing, don't try to show us you have a better interpretation of characters and concepts we've been familiar with for years by cramming them all into a lame semi-relevant movie.

The bottom line is that the fun of FPS games and even Resident Evil, and most other games for that matter, is that we get to BE the character we are playing as, even if they have some personality of their own, and therein lies the fun. When you take that away from us, it better be a damn good interpretation, otherwise it's just a lousy game we only get to watch and not play, and nobody is going to stick around for that.

btw, I'd say that the "game to movie" formula is just as much of a loser as the "movie to game" translation. Don't get me started on some of the @$$-like movie based games I've seen since the dawn of the NES... Sick

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Whoa! Whoa! I disagree! I personally think it is possible to make a decent movie out of a game where as I think it's possible to make a decent game out of a movie.

First off, Mr. Monk Razz a great example of a movie made into a game that worked out great, is STAR WARS!!!!!! Alot of the star wars games suck, but they're is plenty that don't. Need I forget to mention half of the Spiderman games. Why do these work? Because they naturally make for a great game. Who wouldn't want to play a game where you swing around buildings and kick the crap out of bad guys? Or fly around in space ships and cut people up with lazer swords? There has to be a "format" for it to work. I mean of course there' s plenty that don't fit the format, like I don't think it'd be easy to make a good game out of "A Beautiful Mind." but then who knows?

The reason it doesn't work, is because Hollywood doesn't care! Neither do certain gaming industries, they just want to make a quick buck by slapping a popular license on a product. They know that even if the DOOM movie sucks, people will still watch it because they've heard of Doom. It is possible to make a good movie of a video game, it just hasn't really been done yet. A close example is the many good anime movies based off of games. The animated Street Fighter was good.

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Well, you're right...they're not all crap...and I guess I didn't mean to sound like ALL the movie to game translations bit the big one...that's usually a safer way to go, though. The reason those games worked is because there was a lot to work with, and the creators took advantage of that when they made the Spider Man and Star Wars games (like you said, not in all cases). When you start out with only a little, though, like in the case of an action heavy FPS, and try to stretch it into a movie, then you have problems. With movies, there's a lot to work with if it was a good movie to begin with, and there's a definite advantage to having that to work from (a few of the "Alien" spinoff games were pretty good). I don't believe in absolutes, though, and I'm sure there are exceptions...I almost confess to liking Mortal Kombat the movie, though they went intentionally cheesy in a lot of ways, which works sometimes...Very Happy

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Wow...just imagine how you'll feel when "Wolfenstein: The Movie" comes out, starring Nicholas Cage as William "BJ" Blazkowicz...Laughing

What can I say? Hollywood (or it's kin) sits on the fence of the video game industry like a vulture, waiting to prey upon the latest video game sensation, tear it apart, and toss us it's stripped down carcass in movie form, with some stink and maggots where the substance used to be...(okay...I think I took that analogy one step too far!) As wierd as it sounds, there's some truth to that...for some reason, motion picture makers think that because kids love to sit in front of a PC or console and play a game for hours, they'll love watching real life characters act out the same scenario for us on the big screen. WRONG!!


Agreed. Uwe Boll is most notorious for completely eating then excreting great game material into non-watchable cinematic abortions. Paul W.S. Anderson is equally as untalented. Both of these "directors" have no style or vision, they mearly exploit the popularity of certain game titles. They are indeed loathsome talentless hacks.
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Now that I think about it the closest thing to a game movie translation that worked EXTREMELY well IMO is Tron. It wasn't based off of any game in particular, but mostly just retro gaming itself. Now they made it into a game. It was an awesome movie either way.

I think it just takes a very talented creator to make an awesome video game movie out of a video game with little to no substance. For example something like the 2600 Adventure has very little to offer to the cinema giving the creator of such a game based movie alot to manipulate. I mean the only thing they have to do to keep it accurate (in all fairness of course) is to keep 3 dragons with their names, an evil wizard, a heroic night (preferably in gold armor since that's the most recognizable form of sir block) 3 castles and an evil bat, other then that everything is pretty much free reign.

Also for an example of making something out of nothing, I admire the creator of gummi bears the series! Picture it this way: You're a starving writer and your paid off by Disney to make a cartoon show pilot out of those little candy bears. You've locked yourself in a room trying to think "what the hell can I do with little squishy gummy bears?" Do you really think YOU would've come up with something as epic and "deep" as they did with that cartoon?

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Yeah, but the Gummi Bears cartoon totally missed the essence of what made the candy so popular - they were delicious! I watched that show time after time, and never once did I see a giant hand flatten one of the gummi bears between it's fingers to see just how big they could squish them, nor did anyone ever attempt to eat one. Granted that wouldn't have made very good cartoon material, but sometimes you have to take liberties.

One of my pet peeves about movie to game translations is when they try to add action in the game where it absolutely wasn't in the movie. The Indiana Jones trilogy game on the SNES was fun, but it totally blew away a lot of the plot elements of the movies in the name of giving Indy more "fight time" in the game...I don't remember Indy duking it out with and destroying Beloq and Donavan (sp?) at the end of the first and third movies...that must have been left on the cutting room floor. Likewise, I loved the Super Star Wars trilogy for SNES, but having Luke give into his hatred and kill the Emperor with his saber totally stripped the game of the trilogy's ultimate climax.

Yuck...sorry, but I just remembered Sega's era when they tried making games that were both movies and games, courtesy of lots and lots of FMV interspersed with some so called interaction from the player every now and then. Talk about sleepers...it seemed like every Sega CD (which I never bought) game for a while was aimed in this direction, and it never caught on really...thank goodness...

I can't think of many other games that have been made into actual movies before...sorry...I got to thinking about something else, and accidentally started thinking about that suckerific "He-Man" movie they made many years ago...pardon me while I go throw up now... Sick

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Heh, I remember those old Sega CD games! (though in europe the whole system was called the Mega CD, which is a far superior name so have that IN YOUR FEZZACE!!! ahem... sorry)
They were pretty interesting, I thought... though they didn't have much gameplay, it's true. I remember there was one where your wife got killed by a street car gang, and you had to drive around exacting harsh revenge! Except the game drove itself for you completely, and you had to press 'a' or 'b' at certain points when the 'game' told you to; thusly dodging rocks, leaping brilliantly off precipices and destroying helicopters. It looked amazing, it played rather... interestingly. But still, I had a friend who was into that game for a short while.

I don't think such games were restricted to the Mega CD either; I seem to remember the Phillips CD (that poor, ill-fated console) had some Legend of Zelda 'interective movies' which were supposedly complete coffee-coaster material. Seems to be the hideous fate of the first CD consoles - the bane of the interactive movie AAAUUGH!

But as regards the Doom movie, I was dissapointed as soon as I saw the marine's black uniforms. I would have only been happy if they were bright green with those wierd-yet-cool 'futuristic' looking helmets, just like in the REAL Doom! Now that would have been cool. I wonder whether they'll get the BFG in, and the plasma rifle with it's purple energy of death? Somehow I doubt it a lot. I've not yet seen a good movie made from a game, and that includes Resident Evil which I thought was... bad. The reason games don't make good movies as far as I'm concerned is because they tend to be money-spinning things which are made by people who don't even like games and have probably never played one since 'Tetris'. So they come out smelling of rancid, rotting tuna paste that got forgotten and left in the back of the fridge for 17 months...

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Doesn't look as bad once we actually saw some footage. What they were saying all the time was bullcrap. But once the trailer came out, it might aswell be quite interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:35 am
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Well my main quibble is that it was based off of Doom 3. I want Doom 1 and 2 movies dammit!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:40 am
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Isn't Doom 3 based on Doom 1? Anyway, here is a new trailer.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:21 am
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Kind of, it changes alot though, it tries to "improve" which is usually a bad move IMO.

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I don't like it when a "sequel" to a game comes out on a newer console that basically disregards the ones that came out on previous platforms by claiming to be a replacement for the original. I don't need some Johnny-come-lately flashy new version of a game to tell me that it's the updated original when I've spent hours enjoying the real deal on an older platform. Why not just add to the story instead with an entirely new game?

An exception would be a game like Resident Evil, where they redid the first one with kick arse grapics, but it was basically just an exact remake of the original (with some minor additions). By doing that, they didn't disregard the original, they just said, "Hey...here's the same game with much cooler graphics and less crappy acting!" That's okay in my book.

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It was more of a retelling for those stupid people nowadays that are like "OMG THOSE GFX Sux0rz LAMO. dey luuk like teh crap LOLZ. Only a idiot would play that crap. lolies." Yeah. I liked Doom 3, easier to make a movie than 1 and 2. Although they are missing a D2: HoE retelling. D4: HoE Smile
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I agree with the fact that movie producers are the vultures and sit waiting for an old cool game is ready to have it's guts spilled to gain a few extra petty cash points...

It looks okay-ish... kinda...
Cool concept! I love DOOM!

One thing that really pissed me off is: The Rock doesnt really look like the Doom guy, sure.. he's a UAC trooper and sure he's kinda bald... but where is his bulk? The dude in Doom 1 and 2 lookked really fat in the HUD. Why shoodnt friggin' Rock man bulk up? he's a friggin' wrestler after all, why not get a bit of bulk to play the part correctly in a movie? Umm whats her name in Bridget Jones Diary got really fat, why cant poncy boy Rock do the same??

"ooh.. my mighty man boosem is being chafed by my uac trooper shirt..."
I can just imagine the poor stage hands now... I feel sorry for them. It's a kewl game and the least they cood do is to make it a ltitle betta than that. I read the basic story and cant see how this film is gonna be the replica and cool looking DOOM 1 and 2 feel.

I will go and watch it non the less out of my infatuation with the ID Software games...
Pfft... Wolfenstein3D the movie... haha, kewl... I cant just picture it now too...

"Die allied shvine hund"
BJ runs toward enemy
"Yeah... Yeah... Y-Y-Y-Yeah...."
Nazi shoots BJ
Credits...

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