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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:30 am
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https://www.moddb.com/mods/operation-gral

Overall very fun mod, fast paced ,very nice music tunes and nostalgic sounds.

There are a few nitpicks that I love less...that screen light effect for once, you feel like something is happening or you're being shot, it's just confusing and stressful instead of being immersive. Too many doors it seems, after every 2 meters, prefer more area to move/walk.
Some maps are a bit confusing to navigate.

But again, very nice creation, that seems to be under-looked.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:09 am
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doomjedi wrote:
under-looked.

http://diehardwolfers.areyep.com/viewtopic.php?t=4214

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:37 am
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Last post is from 2007, and this was released last month.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:17 pm
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Interesting. I'll try this out next week, and report back.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:45 pm
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Made it to level 10 so far. Appears to be a SOD-mod as a secret elevator took me to level 19.

There's a couple of bugs (or oversights, maybe).

- Sometimes, after counting up the ratios at the end of a level, I was left with a brrrrr sound until I picked up some ammo on the next level.

- The doors that require the gold key have the silver-key blue marker on them

- The music was so loud that I had to turn it off.

- On level 8, a skeleton was in the way of getting to a secret door. I had to noclip my way there.

- I agree the light screen effect is definitely not needed, I kept thinking I was being receiving damage.


Apart from that, it's not bad. If you push space at a suit of armour, it farts and coughs. (why?)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:46 pm
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Finally "finished" this...

When the demon is defeated, it takes you to level 666. On this level, cheats are disabled, and you are killed on the very first shot. There's no chance of winning there.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:39 am
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Robbbert wrote:
Finally "finished" this...

When the demon is defeated, it takes you to level 666. On this level, cheats are disabled, and you are killed on the very first shot. There's no chance of winning there.
There's no chance of winning if you cheat, either. Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:49 pm
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Had another look at this. On level 18, you can save your game until you get the "spear" (It looks like something else). After that, you cannot save. All the enemies are ghosts that can be knocked out with one shot (but they come back to life), and the demon.

When you kill the demon, you gain his power, and you're on level 666.

So once I realised my character had significant power, even without cheats, I was able to kill the first boss, however I still haven't defeated the 2nd boss as yet. No idea how many more there could be.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:40 am
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You must defeat EVERY boss you encountered during the game. Good luck!

EDIT: You died after a hit because you used cheats during the game? No offense, but if this is the reason then it's a good way to keep away cheaters from play the game or to make them play through the game fairly. Clever, I like it!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:56 am
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No, it was my mistake, I didn't understand the level. As long as you stay away from the first boss you don't die immediately. The 2nd boss is tough though.

I don't think there's any penalty for cheaters except you lose all your points when cheats are enabled.

But, on level 666, cheats can't be turned on, and if they were already on, they turn off. That's what makes it hard for me.

Unlike everyone else (it seems) I prefer to play with cheats on, because I want to reach the end without endless frustration.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:25 am
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Robbbert wrote:
Unlike everyone else (it seems) I prefer to play with cheats on, because I want to reach the end without endless frustration.

Now that's a big oof.

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ReddimusVonAggrevatii wrote:
Robbbert wrote:
Unlike everyone else (it seems) I prefer to play with cheats on, because I want to reach the end without endless frustration.

Now that's a big oof.


I agree!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:35 pm
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And I think you guys make a post about it every time Robbbert mentions it in some capacity, so it has been duly noted!
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Yes, it appears some people have no tolerance for alternate ideas. Not very friendly.
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I have no hostile intentions towards Robbbert. I just don't like it when people abuse cheats.

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I'm having fun with this so far, on level 15 currently.
Fast paced, fun, not perfect but good Wolf3D time Smile

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