About the DieHard Wolfers
Why & Where it came from
years back, there were many great sites on the web for the avid collector/player of wolfensetin
to get their fix. Then a few people created a forum (group on Yahoo) dedicated to the
fans of Wolfenstein. This was an interesting place to be for a while, where people could
talk about the game, share views on different releases, but then it got a little ugly.
It became factionized and people started splitting off in groups. Someone actually deleted
the first group and one faction created a new group called "Wolfenstein Fan Club"
(which is still going today). This group was ok for a while, but there were others who
wanted to create their own little clique. Thus was born the 'Real Wolfers', 'David Gelbers
Coding Club' and a few others.
came the kiddies and the fighting. So this person went this way, and others went their
way. The community was breaking apart. So, BrotherTank, MCS, and Areyep decided
that it would be in the best interest of the community to start a club called 'DieHard Wolfers'
where everyone was welcome. Where people would share information, help one another, and
generally try and get along.
With the popularity of this 'DieHard' group, many of the younger ones tried to turn it all
into a popularity contest. They started groups because they believed that in order to
fit in or be popular, you had to have your own group. The wanted to see who could draw
the most people, get the most posts, and so on. We at 'DieHard' didn't want to play this
game, and decided that it was in our best interests to just keep doing the things we were....
Do them the best we could.
of these ancient groups can still be found in the Yahoo groups. Most are dead and forgotten,
but that old Fanclub still keeps going. There were 3 versions of the Dome forums,
one for the Mansion, two versions of the 'Real Wolfers', many, many coding clubs,
and others that would create quite the list (if I could remember them all). Anyhow, we
still kept being a club, and growing month by month, until the change from Clubs to Groups
on Yahoo. With that change came advertising. The killer to most. People were
put off by the ads that would jump up from time to time, or that were nested within posts.
But that is what you get for free hosting these days. Find one way to block it, and they
go and do something else on you. By now, Tristan had his third variation of the
Dome going, and was trying to build it up. People were migrating there as it didn't have
that same time, MCS and Areyep were working on a new project. They had teamed up to write
SoD2... (Spear Resurrection for those who don't know). MCS while not only working on
the code, started putting together a place where he and Steve could call home. It wasn't
too long before MCS (Martin) was offering part of that site to the 'DieHard Group'.
It came with one string.... BrotherTank was to moderate and maintain it (and try to use
as little space on the server as possible). The rest of the deal was that he would
continue to pay for the site, and we could host our Group there for free. Free of advertising.
Now who could pass that up???
went to work making changes to the templates, setting up the forums after MCS installed the
original phpBB software. We were hoping to go
live on March 01, 2003. At that time, for reasons still not completely known to
myself , Martin or most of you, the Dome was suddenly un-available. It was down.... (probably
due to in-fighting amongst the people who ran it - Who knows? Honestly, while I missed
the place, it didn't really matter why it went down... it just was). It just so happened
that it was the same day that we launched the new Forums on Areyep.com. None of that
was planned. It was not a conspiracy. It just happened that way. Call it
started accusing us of copying the Dome. Of trying to create competition. They
even accused us of trying to split the community further apart. That is so far from the
truth it isn't even funny. The DieHard group on Yahoo was started long before the
Dome or any of the other groups dedicating themselves to Wolfenstein. The only one before
us, was the Fanclub (which still exists - although it looks like it's slowly dying and it's
founder only visits with varied intervals). So in fact we Diehards were considered 'competition'
to only the fanclub. The rest of those clubs that came later were in fact trying to compete
the competition side, MCS, Areyep, and BrotherTank didn't want to play the game.
We didn't speak up about who was first, who was where, who was anything. We decided
to just keep going with our forums. People were trying to turn all of this into some
type of popularity contest. You had to have a group or a forum to be popular! So
lets set that idea straight.....
Wolfers is not about competition. We are not a popularity contest. We are not the
protector of 1 or a few and screw the rest. We are a place where everyone is welcome.
We agree that people have the right to disagree. We agree that some people just can't
get along with, or they just plain dislike others. We agree that there are rules to our
forums, and that they are to be followed by everyone, so everyone may participate regardless
of who likes or doesn't like who. We still hold the same principles in our rules as they
day the DieHards were formed. So everyone is protected by the rules. Everyone
is welcome and encouraged to participate and to try and get along with one another!
provide a community where everyone is welcome as long as they follow the rules.
help people with answers to questions about anything we can about Wolfenstein
share conversations with others who share the same hobby (which is Wolfenstein)
grow, and continue on, in the face of those that want to destroy us (re popularity)
exist and stand the test of time, being DieHard's now and in the future!
will the forums be in the future? We can't say for sure. But with your help, and
commitment, and willingness to contribute, We hope the DieHard Wolfers Forums will continue
to grow and flourish. It's all about bringing people together.
if you share our hobby called Wolfenstein... And you want to be a part of the community...
Just head on over to the forums by Clicking